I Am In The Father And The Father Is In Me—We Are One

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When We Love God Above All Things With Our Whole Heart And Soul, Only Then Do We Come To Love Ourselves And All Other Things Truly And Equally

Meister Eckhart Conversation Concluded

“He came awfully close to making the connection between self-consciousness and God’s transcendent nature,” said Bill. “In fact, existence, for Eckhart, was characterized by levels, levels of ever higher divinity. According to the Meister, ‘mere being is life in living being, and living being is intellect and intellectual being.’ Each of these different levels of existence—being, life, and intelligence exists in the next highest level of itself, and, for Eckhart, the union of the soul and the divine comes together in the last level, the level of intelligence. Thus, he held, at least in some of his teachings, that the essence of the divine is intelligence, or understanding, and this became the common ground of God and soul, so much so that the Meister was able to specifically state, ‘I am in the Father, and the Father is in me; the Father and I are one.’ Jesus taught how to do this, how to achieve union with God. According to Eckhart, one could not know Jesus without knowing himself first. Indeed, if my memory is correct, Eckhart’s exact words were, ‘to get into the core of God at his greatest, one must first get into himself at his least.’ If that doesn’t sound like your dialectic of freedom, I don’t know what does. Am I right?”

“Absolutely,” I said, “the Meister just put freedom’s dialectic in the language of his time—the only language available. But I’m still confused about Jesus; how did he, as a historical figure, fit into Eckhart’s mysticism?”

“Lest we forget,” said Bill, “we’re not talking about church dogma here!”

“But who was Jesus,” I responded, “a man of high degree perhaps, or something more?”

“According to the Meister, the return of all things to God can be described in two stages,” said Bill, “’as the birth of the word in soul and as the breaking through of the soul into that divine ground that is God.’ Jesus knew this, and he lived accordingly. That made him extraordinarily special. Jesus would say things like: ‘I wish the man who follows me, who comes to me, to be where I am,’ and Eckhart would add that ‘no one is where the Son is except for the one who becomes One in the Father’s bosom and heart.’ The Meister pleaded for us to open our eyes and to see what has always been the case, ‘that the soul is nearer to God than it is to the body which makes us human;’ that is the deepest ground, the ground where God and the soul are One. In other words, following Jesus meant seeking union with the divine. The Father gave birth to the Son and if the soul is one with the Father in giving birth to the Son, then it must also be one with the spirit of love proceeding from Father to the Son.”

“Then it all comes down to what Jesus preached, and even the church got that right—the gospel of love,” I said.

“That’s about right,” Bill replied, “but it was even more significant than that for Eckhart. For him, love, in the truest sense of the word, meant loving all things equally. Indeed, he said that ‘when we love God above all things with our whole heart and soul, only then do we come to love ourselves and all other things truly and equally.’”

“Jesus, doesn’t it seem like we’ve come an awful long way just to get back to the beginning,” I said, “back to the gospel’s original message?”

“Yeah, you could say that,” Bill said, “but don’t forget, this whole little chat started because you thought your belief in God was unique and that’s just not true. Eckhart expressed something very similar a very long time ago.”

“I’ll have to give that some thought,” I replied. “I’m to tired to think right now.”

“Me too,” Bill said.

“I do have one more thought, though,” I said. “If an identity exists between my soul and God, and, if soul is the same thing that I call self-consciousness, then that God-consciousness-connection must exist for the Meister too. Is that right?”

“Indeed it is,” responded Bill. “According to Eckhart, the soul may achieve union with God, but the ‘spark of soul’ is already there, in union with God, and it is through that spark that God experiences human consciousness, so much so in fact, that when we suffer God suffers with us. ‘He truly does;” says Eckhart, ‘He suffers in his own fashion, sooner and far more than the man suffers who suffers for love of him.’”

“Okay,” I said, “one last question and I’m off to bed. How exactly did you market Eckhart?”

“I didn’t,” replied Bill, “I wrote a short paper explaining that you can’t sell a product that is already owned. I added that it is unethical to fool a person into believing that they do not have a product they already possess. I added that that kind of behavior violates the good business code, and I got an A on my paper.”

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2 Responses to “I Am In The Father And The Father Is In Me—We Are One”

  1. bwinwnbwi Says:

    Reblogged this on bwinwnbwimusic and commented:

    Another reblog opportunity,nice,–Structurely, b~b~bb allows for the confirmation/rejection of scientific hypothesizes while it also separates scientific knowledge from caring aesthetic values, i.e., the reduction of goodness, love, and beauty to stimulus/response mechanisms. Thus, the strength and resolve necessary to create a better world is not found in analysis and calculation; rather, it is found in the empowering emotion that calls us to love, beauty, and truth—the aesthetic component of our experience (the b~b of b~b~bb structure—which, in you and me, is the divine made manifest!)

    Meister Eckhart, a long time ago and without using structure, communicated the same result–or how the divine is indeed made manifest in you and me!

  2. bwinwnbwi Says:

    More specifically, built into the Logos is the conservation principle that keeps everything connected to its opposite, that keeps everything unified and affirmed in transcendent God–the Three in One God of Meister Eckhart.

    “Yes, that seems to all follow,” Bill responded, “but try explaining that to someone who doesn’t want to understand. Eckhart defended himself by saying that ‘God’s intention in creation, fell first on the whole, on the levels of a harmoniously working universe designed to reach its end in God’s absolute unity.’”

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